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Army Medical Evaluation Board (MEB)

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it), my husband and I became more familiar with this than we ever planned to. Keep in mind that this is our experience and as with everything in the Army, the experience can vary greatly from one soldier to the next.

During my husband’s first deployment (of four that he completed), he began to have some respiratory issues. When he came back to the states, he noted his difficulties on his post deployment evaluation. His respiratory condition only continued to get worse and to make a long story short, he was moved out of his MOS of 11Bravo to a less physically intensive position.

At this point, the BN surgeon recommended that he begin a medical board. My husband did not want to do this and fought to avoid it. With the support of his 1st SGT as well as several other higher ups, he was allowed to avoid the med board and serve in his unit in a different capacity.

After his fourth deployment, his condition had still not improved and his ETS date was now less than a year away. He was on a variety of medications (and still is) so the BN surgeon recommended a med board again so in his words ‘we could at least try to get his medications paid for’ as the running total for them was more than $300/month.

He reluctantly agreed to start the process. He went through a variety of testing, physical evaluations, etc. There was a great deal of paperwork that had to be processed. The process started at the end of October and his packet was not ready to go to the board until March. After all of his paperwork was complete, his packet had to be reviewed by three physicians before going to the board. They met with him as well and he had the opportunity to either agree with their findings or disagree and state why. He agreed and his packet was sent to Texas to be examined by the informal board.

From the time they received the packet in Texas until we received a decision was about 48 hours. It was remarkably fast and much quicker than either of us anticipated. He was called in again to discuss the findings and the next steps.

Up until this point, we had no idea that the option of retirement even existed. But we quickly found out that it did. He was given a rating of 30% which qualified him for retirement. Because his condition was not yet rated as stable, he was placed on the TDRL (Temporary Disability Retirement List). From the time he accepted the decision, he had to be outprocessed from the Army within 90 days. We pushed it until the latest possible time and he was officially placed on TDRL and removed from active duty in June. So the entire process for us (from beginning the med board until discharge) was about 9 months.

The process and length of time can vary greatly. While the main steps are the same, the amount of time it takes to get from one step to the next can be drastically different for each soldier. We were told that orthopedic cases take the longest to process. I have known some who have been outprocessed in as little as three months and some who are still in the process after 18 months.

I am by no means an expert on the process. In my quest to learn as much as I could and through others reading my blog and emailing me, I was able to find a message board that is dedicated to the Physical Evaluation Board (PEB) process. It can be found at www.pebforum.com. It has a wealth of information and is run by a former military service member who represented MEB cases while he worked with JAG. He is also on the board quite a bit and has been very helpful in answering questions. Check it out.

If your soldier is going through the MEB process, please email me your story so it can be posted. You can leave out any identifying information if you wish. It is always helpful to be able to read a variety of experiences rather than just having to depend on the experience of one person.

About the author: Stacey is an Army wife of a soldier who joined in 2003. He has since been medically retired but she continues to provide information to Army wives and families to make their adjustment to the Army lifestyle easier. Connect with Stacey: Facebook Twitter Pinterest

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  • jessica mosby October 5, 2010, 8:39 pm

    Dear Stacey,
    It looks like my husband is about to be reffered to the Med board for med retirement. I was wondering once this process starts (and I know that alot is probly case by case) about how long from the times it starts till we are out of the Army?

    • Stacey October 6, 2010, 2:30 pm

      It is very much a case by case situation. My husband’s started November (ish) and he was out the following June. I know some with fairly simple cases who have gotten out a lot quicker and some with more complicated cases (typically orthopedic involvement) who have taken MUCH longer. It’s hard to predict.

  • Carissa March 12, 2011, 9:07 pm

    We are stationed in Germany. Hubby has been in between 9-10 years now and is an E4. He hurt his hip in Iraq in 2003 which now has plates and pins holding it together. Then in 2007 he went to Afghanistan and hurt his back which required 2 spinal surgeries to repair. That was done last year. They just started the med board process and Im a little concerned. They told us it could take 2 years to see any VA benefits because we cant start the process until he is in the US. I dont understand how we are supposed to transition out of the army, look for job, and find a place to live when nobody will tell us how long this takes. Im very worried we will just end up back in WA standing in the airport with no jobs or place to live. We have no family that can help us or is willing to I should say. Im really stressed out- any advice? How long does it take to start getting money once he is out?

  • Mindy April 20, 2011, 1:54 pm

    Stacey – I was just medically retired in January and you are correct every situation is different. My process began in May and I was medically retired on 10 January. Mine went a little different direction, I was permenantly retired which is a little bit of a different process than what your husband went through. Unfortunately, no one in my chain of command had any idea how the process worked, so a lot of it I had to weed through for myself. There are a lot of resources out there for service members going through this process, including specialized legal assistance that specialize both in the MEB and the PEB process.

    From the time I was seen by the MEB doctor to the time my MEB had been returned for my review was only 10 days. The PEB on the other hand took 8 weeks to return for my review. At that point in time, I noticed a few discrepancies and it had to be returned for a ‘formal hearing’. The lengthened the process by about two months for me. Once I signed and agreed with the PEB findings after the formal board, I received my separation date within less than three weeks. Since I had the accrued leave, I immediately started clearing upon receiving my orders. Something that most service members who are going through this process aren’t informed of is that the commander can authorize up to an additional 30 days of permissive TDY in conjuction with whatever leave that is accrued to allow more time for transition back to where you are going to live and time to find a job while you are still getting paid by the Army. This does not push out the separation date, it just starts you on leave sooner than you would with the regular leave.

    • lyle November 27, 2015, 9:35 pm

      I was just wondering if you new where I could find that regulation on the extra TDY leave? Is that the what level CMDR is required?

  • Santiago September 27, 2011, 9:55 am

    I am starting my medboard process soon and i got a question if you get morw than 30 % of dissability rating that means that you get medically retired and keeo all the benefits ??

  • Santiago October 21, 2011, 11:58 am

    Hi stacey , i am concern about do it really matter how much time i
    Have been in service for a rating or it depend what kind of injury or how severe is ?? My process is starting now and i hve been in service 1 year . Thanks

  • Julio October 31, 2011, 1:55 pm

    Hi im going to the end of my med board im been in this process 16 months im just sing my % 6 week ago and no orders yet how long more it take cand somebody give me a place where i can go other than pebblo to get more info about it.

    • Stacey November 2, 2011, 1:57 pm

      My husband received orders within a few weeks of getting his %. He opted for the last possible out date so it was another 90 days before he was actually out. Try http://www.pebforum.com – it has tons of information and the owners of the site are VERY helpful.

  • Josh November 22, 2011, 6:22 am

    Hello Stacey!
    I am about to endure this wonderful path of the MEB. I am currently deployed to Afghanistan and am en route back to Landstuhl for the beginning process of the MEB. Do you know if the MEB can be started overseas? And, if it can. Is their a way where I can ask to start the process in the states instead of overseas?

  • Ashley January 6, 2012, 4:06 pm

    Josh- I started mine here in Hawaii and i am just waiting on the Transition office to contact me about out dates. You can start it overseas, but you can also wait til your back in the states. it actually starts as soon as you get your P2-P3 profile, they check a box saying needs MEB and its off. since i just finished doing all the paperwork and such, remember: everytime you go doctor or er or anything…document it…you will get more of a % if you can back it up more which i was able to do. Hope this helped! and Good Luck

  • Arnold February 18, 2012, 4:54 pm

    Hi Stacey
    I’m an SFC and I’ve been in the Army for 16 years and 7 months. I have Permanent Profile 2s for hearing loss, plantar fasciitis and also obstructive sleep apnea, I’m also currently on the CPAP machine. I’m also have a slipped L5 disc in my lower back and I’m starting the process of a Medical evaluation board. How much percentage wise you think I would receive for all my problems.

    • Stacey February 22, 2012, 7:44 am

      Over at pebforum.com, they have all of the rating guides that lists everything specifically. Unless something has changed since my husband was medically retired, the Army only rates on the issue that is causing you to be discharged/retired. The VA will rate on all service connected disabilities.

  • Cort "Sil" Silva February 21, 2012, 3:48 pm

    Hello Stacey;
    I have been in the Army nearly 4.5 years now. I am drawing near my ETS date (9 Mar 12), and I have been an outstanding Soldier (according to my superiors and peers). I returned from Afghanistan toward the end of December 2011. (62 days) I served at my last duty station for about two years, and I was about to PCS out of there. My unit and I were packing up from a field exercise. As I was up on top of a LMTV (large high back truck) I fell off the LMTV square on my back. I didn’t say anything about it there since I was PCSing out of there, but as I started in-processing with my new unit, I went and got it checked out. I found out that I have a lot of different things wrong with my back. My PA (Physician Assistant) wanted me to med-board after I got all the MRI’s, CT’s, and x-rays done of my back and the diagnosis of the issues with my back. I did not want to “call it quits” yet; I wanted to fulfill my obligation with my contract. My plan was to serve this last deployment and then perhaps ETS with disability benefits. Now I am on my way out and my back feels and is worse now that we have gotten back from this deployment. As I have now done my ETS Phase 2 Physical, I found out that I have many other things wrong with me. What can I do to get my medical issues taken care of? I have orders to sign in to the National Guard in my home state about one month from my ETS date. Is it too late for me to do anything? Ever since I got diagnosed with my issues with my back I have had a P2 with limitations in almost everything, but I still deployed. My wife and I are concerned. I had less than 90 days from the date I got home from deployment to the date of ETS. I requested an extension in order to have more time to get my paperwork and benefits squared away, but the extension was denied. I need help ASAP. Thank You
    The Silva Family

    • Stacey February 22, 2012, 7:42 am

      Go to this forum: http://www.pebforum.com and tell them exactly what you told me. They are much more knowledgeable about a wide range of situations there. One of the guys on the site used to be involved in the med board process as his job. They can help you. I hope it all works out and you get what you deserve to have. Thank you for your service.

  • Sara April 12, 2012, 8:46 am

    I’m glad it was some what a quick medboard for your husband. Mine has been going through that for 2 and a half years now! Lucky for him that I have kept all his medical docs and all his line of duty forms cause without that he would have nothing! One thing I do have to say to the military member just starting out is to KEEP all medical files in a 3 ring binder.

  • AL May 17, 2012, 8:57 am

    Im a SGT in the army i have been in for 9yrs im stationed in germany but im going through the new MED board process I was diagnosis with type 2 diabetes but im taking meds for it do you think they will find me fit for duty or not because im hearing some people saying they will. I notice ever since i found out that i have diabetes my weight has been go up and down, having problems sleeping at night, my knees starting to hurt more and more. I have been down range 3 times do you think i have a legitament shot of getting med board out of the military.

  • latonya green June 26, 2012, 6:27 pm

    I enjoyed reading your story. Im in the MEB process myself. I was found unfit for duty. I provided the MEB with all the information the needed to help my case to stay in. I was hurt down range (my eyes) but my doctor said that i could get a waiver to wear my contacts and my strss fractions have healed. They did the surgery to help my ankle. Now im waiting on my ratings to come back whic is around 45 to 60 days. Ive been in this process for about 9 months now and my reenlistment window is available. If you could be please help me with some information about the different types of options that i will have.. Thank you so much,

    Latonya Green

    • Sara June 29, 2012, 9:16 pm

      Latonya- I can only speak for my husbands situation but he can only extend for 6 months at a time since in Med process. We have finally heard back that 1 out of 3 lods have been approved so now just waiting on the other 2. I was wrong on how long it has taken to get this far in my previous post but its been 3.5 tears instead of 2.5. What Med board is saying is that after his lods get approved he will have to have atleast 1 year left on his contract, then meet with Med docs in floedia and then the physical disability evaluation board after that in Georgia or Kentucky. Every case is different because of how much is wrong with that individual. The best advice I can give is to make sure you have all your visits to doctor (for the progress notes if with the va ). For a normal doc ask for.treatment records and put in a binder cause your going to need them!

      • Svee June 4, 2014, 12:04 am

        Well you are fortunate…I was notified about the MEB Board process March 12, 2012 and am still waiting for the Georgia, VA to determine Medical retirement OR disability paid. It is so frustrating since I have been collecting VA disability since November 2012…I have had 3 compensation and pension physicals…ridiculous and frustrating

        • Stacey Abler June 7, 2014, 10:41 am

          I’m sorry it is taking so long. That is a ridiculous amount of time to wait.

  • Soldier July 24, 2012, 11:33 am

    Purpose of Briefing
    To provide an overview of the Integrated Disability Evaluation System (IDES) Program

    To inform Soldiers and their family members of the program
    MEB Office Staff
    Physical Evaluation Board Liaison Officers (PEBLOs)
    Suzanne Belladone
    Craig Dickman
    Cameron Hirtz
    Mary Hogan-Rijos
    Brenna Langdon
    Ginny Randazzo
    Megan Wickham

    Colleen Campbell- Supervisor

    MEB Office Hours
    Normal Business Hours:
    CLOSED on Federal Holidays

    Fax number: 914-788-4861
    Phone number: ( 914) 737-4400

    MEB Office Address
    Purpose of the IDES Program

    Basic Terminology

    Responsibilities of your PEBLO
    and the VA MSC

    Our Mission





    Our Mission
    To provide you and your family the best care while going through the Medical and Physical Evaluation Board Evaluation process

    To provide you with information that will allow you to make informed decisions throughout the MEB/PEB process

    Based on the fact that your military medical care provider has identified a potentially military unfitting medical condition(s) you are being referred to the joint DoD/DVA Disability Evaluation System (DES) process
    This is a new disability process that brings together the resources of the two departments to evaluate, following a single comprehensive medical examination, your referred medical conditions and those conditions you may claim. The process is intended to quickly deliver to you a finding regarding your fitness for continued military service and if determined to be unfit provide you with a single sourced disability rating determined by the Department of Veteran’s Affairs

    During the IDES you will be counseled on the process and advised how you can contribute to the development of your case and what your rights and responsibilities are when presented with the results of this disability evaluation process
    The immediate benefits to you include the fact that you will NOT have to undergo examination and evaluation through two separate systems and you will experience a smoother transition to the benefits and compensation available through the DVA immediately upon separation or retirement if determined to be unfit for continued military service

    Basic Terminology
    APDAB – Army Physical Disability Appeal Board
    DVA – Department of Veteran Affairs
    ERB – Enlisted Review Brief
    EPTS – Existed Prior to Service
    FFD – Fit For Duty
    MEB – Medical Evaluation Board
    MMRB – MOS/Medical Retention Board
    MSC – Military Service Coordinator (VA representative)
    ORB – Officer Review Brief
    OSC – Office of Soldier’s Counsel
    PDA – Physical Disability Agency
    PDR – Permanent Disability Retirement
    PEBLO – Physical Evaluation Board Liaison Officer
    PEB – Physical Evaluation Board
    SWSP – Separation with Severance Pay
    SWOB – Separate without Benefits
    TDRL – Temporary Disability Retired List
    USAPDA – U.S. Army Physical Disability

    Responsibilities of PEBLO
    Initiates your case file within 10 days, once profile has been received from your health care provider

    Completing Part I of VA Form 21-0819 within 10 days of notification of need for MEB

    Forwards the VA Form 21-0819 to Military Service Coordinator (MSC) within 10 days after completing Part I, along with your medical records

    Schedules you for comprehensive counseling sessions throughout the processing of your case

    Keeps you informed of the status of your case

    Responsibilities of VA MSC

    The Military Service Coordinator (MSC) will assist you in filling out VA Form 21-0819 within 10 days of the decision to start an MEB

    Forwards VA Form 21-0819 to Department of Veteran Affairs (DVA) to schedule a single comprehensive physical examination

    Medical Evaluation Board (MEB) Purpose
    The MEB Process begins when optimum medical care has been reached or when your physician determines you will not be able to return to duty

    Designed to evaluate your medical condition(s) to determine if you do or do not meet the Medical Retention Standards IAW AR 40-501, Chapter 3

    Documents your medical condition(s) and duty limitations

    Refers you to the Physical Evaluation Board (PEB), when the findings and recommendations stipulate you do not meet retention standards or when referred by an MMRB

    Does not mean you must be found unfit by the PEB or discharged from military service

    A Medical Board is NOT…
    A “MOS reclassification Board”
    — reclassification is considered by the MOS/Medical Retention Board (MMRB) for Soldiers with P3 who meet retention standards

    You WILL NOT sit in front of a panel of board members.
    The MEB is an informal process comprised of at least two
    physicians who compile, assess, and evaluate your medical
    history to determine if your duty is affected by your medical

    How long does it take to complete a Medical Board?
    Our goal is to complete your MEB within 100 days. However, each case is unique and your MEB could take less or more than 100 days to complete.
    MEB Process
    Your PEBLO will schedule an initial meeting with you to complete Part 1 of VA 21- form, if you have not already done so

    You will turn in your Health Records to your PEBLO at this time

    The VA MSC will schedule a meeting with you to complete Part 2 of the form

    The MSC will forward the form to the DVA, who will schedule your Comprehensive Physical Examination

    Your PEBLO will prepare and mail the request for your Commander’s Evaluation letter.

    Your PEBLO will refer you to other resources as required (e.g. Army Career and Alumni Program (ACAP), Army Wounded Warrior (AW2) Program, etc.) prior to any separation or retirement

    What is in an MEB Packet
    Medical Data/Documents Created in the
    Support of Your MEB

    Complete Health Record

    Personnel/Performance Data

    What is in the MEB Package

    Coversheet (DA Form 3947) – Lists all medical conditions stating
    whether you do/do not meet retention standards of AR 40-501, Chapter 3

    Narrative Summary (NARSUM)

    Addendum – An addition to the MEB if something was not included in the
    original NARSUM

    Consults from clinics you visited.

    Copy of your Profile.

    Copy of the Comprehensive Physical Examination done by the VA

    Copy of your medical records

    Comprehensive Physical Examination done by the Department of Veteran Affairs
    You will receive one comprehensive physical from the VA

    It is imperative that you list all medical conditions known to you, as this is your opportunity to have all medical conditions addressed by the MEB to determine whether you do or do not meet retention standards and to ensure the VA review for possible compensation for all your listed conditions

    If your health care provider(s) sees the need for you to be evaluated by another specialty clinic, they will request a consult with that clinic. Please notify your PEBLO or Case Manager

    Narrative Summary (NARSUM)
    The NARSUM is the heart of the MEB

    This comprehensive report, written by your health care provider, provides a “word picture” of your condition, history and status. Furthermore, it provides a recommendation, such as Medical Condition “XYZ” is medically unacceptable IAW para 3-__, AR 40-501 and case is referred to the PEB for further adjudication

    What is in my MEB Personnel/Performance Data**

    Personnel Certificate is completed by the custodian of
    your 201 file (PSB)

    Commander’s Evaluation Letter

    NCOERs/OERs (E-5 And above) (Last 3)
    (if necessary)

    APFT SCORECARD (Last 3 tests) (if necessary)

    LES (Current End of Month)

    DA Form 4187 (Name changes, loss of rank, promotions, etc)

    **RC Soldiers have additional requirements (see next slide)
    Reserve Component Personnel/Performance Data
    Orders for all active duty periods – where injury/illness

    Reserves – Chronological Statement of Retirement Points
    (ARPC 249-2-E) (commonly known as RPAS)

    National Guard – Retirement Points History Statement
    (NG Form 23) (commonly known as RPAM)

    Approved Line of Duty (if necessary)

    20 Year Letter if you have one
    If I am found unfit by the PEB Is there any way I can stay in?
    YES, you can submit a request for Continuation on Active Duty (COAD) or Continuation on Active Reserve Status (COAR)

    Your PEBLO will provide you with specific criteria/details related to requesting this

    You can also obtain information and counseling on COAD/COAR from the OSC

    Generally, HRC is the approval authority for most requests
    — G-1 is the disapproval authority for AW2 requests

    MEB Process
    After completion of the MEB, you will be counseled and review the Board’s findings and recommendations

    You have the opportunity to seek advise from a Impartial Healthcare Professional when reviewing your MEB Findings and preparation of MEB Rebuttal

    You can consult with a lawyer from the OSC or some other advocate before signing the MEB.

    The MEB will state whether or not you do or do not meet retention standards IAW AR 40-501, Chapter 3

    You will receive a copy of your MEB and supporting documents for your files
    Generally, If you meet retention standards within the limits of your profile you are returned to duty in your PMOS

    If you do not meet retentions standards, your case will be referred to the Physical Evaluation Board (PEB) for further disposition

    If the MEB is a MOS/Medical Retention Board (MMRB) directed MEB, and the results of the MEB are you meet retention standards, you are Returned to Duty

    Can I Appeal the MEB?
    YES – If you disagree with any portion of your Medical Board, you have the right to appeal it.

    You may request an Impartial Physician Review of the MEB by a health care professional not involved in your MEB process.

    The physician will have 5 calendar days to review and advise you of the MEB findings.

    You will have 7 calendar days to request and prepare an appeal of the MEB findings to the DCCS.

    The OSC can assist you with your appeal.

    MEB Appeals
    The DCCS will review your appeal and make one of the following recommendations:

    MEB stands as written

    Can send back to health care provider for further information

    Can forward to PEB with attachments or additional notes

    Special Note
    The PEBLO won’t be able to provide you with disability ratings until you have gone through the entire PDES process
    First, PEB has to make the fitness determination .
    If found unfit, the PEB will request rating from the VA. The VA Rating site will provide the ratings to the PEB.
    You will receive your disability ratings for conditions that the PEB determined render you unfit form the VA.
    The PEBLO will counsel you regarding your PEB findings which will include ALL conditions (Referred and Claimed).

    Do You Have Any Questions
    About the MEB Process?
    Physical Evaluation Board (PEB)
    There are 3 PEBs – Located at the following locations
    Washington DC PEB
    FT Sam Houston, TX PEB
    FT Lewis, WA PEB

    PEB Process
    The PEB is the only board in the Military that can determine whether you are fit or unfit for continued Military Service

    Once the determination has been made whether you are fit or unfit, you will be notified of Preliminary findings

    If found fit for duty, your case will not be referred to the VA for a disability determination

    If found unfit, the PEB will forward your case to the DVA Rating Board for a determination of the appropriate disability rating for all of your medical conditions

    PEB Process
    The DVA Rating Board can return the case for additional information or clarification of data, in order to make a determination of the appropriate disability rating

    Only those medical conditions that render you unfit for further Military Service will be considered for determining your final disposition by the PEB

    PEB Process
    Once the PEB has rendered a decision, your PEBLO will be notified

    Your PEBLO will schedule a review and counseling session of the PEB’s findings and recommendations, usually within 24 hours but NLT 3 days

    You are given ten (10) calendar days to concur or nonconcur

    PEB Process

    You can also consult with an attorney from the OSC to determine how you want to respond to the PEB findings; or, request to review the VA ratings before making an election

    You cannot request a reconsideration of your VA rating if you nonconcur
    with your IPEB. You can only request a reconsideration of the VA rating
    if you concur with your IPEB or after the FPEB

    You will be informed of your preliminary informal findings of the PEB
    (Fit/Unfit Findings)

    DVA Rating Board

    If you disagree with the DVA Rating Board’s disability ratings, you may submit in writing a one time request for reconsideration
    Types Of PEB Dispositions
    Fit for Duty

    Unfit for Duty
    SWOB (no % given)

    Rating of 0%-20% and less than 20 YOS

    Rating of 30% or more or 20 YOS and medical condition is NOT stabilized enough for permanent rating
    Periodic re-exams every 12 – 18 months (5 yr maximum)
    Minimum of 50% pay for TDRL retirement check

    Rating of 30% or more or 20 YOS

    Disability Compensation: Your PEBLO will show you how to calculate YOS and disability severance and/or retired pay

    PEB Appeal Process For Fit For Duty
    You are entitled to submit a written appeal

    You may request a formal hearing, as an exception to policy

    The PEB President decides whether to grant a request for formal hearing to contest a fit finding

    PEB Appeal Process
    You cannot request a formal PEB to question any disability percentages provided by the VA

    You can only appeal the PEB findings of unfit or fit for duty

    If your disposition is “UNFIT FOR FURTHER MILITARY SERVICE”, you have the right to request a formal hearing with or without personal appearance

    You can also submit a written appeal regarding your fitness for duty. You may submit any relevant and material evidence regarding the fitness of your medical conditions

    You have the right to be represented by an attorney from JAG or by a counsel of choice (civilian – at your own expense) for your formal hearing

    You may also elect to have representation from any of the various veterans organizations, if available. (DAV- Disabled American Veteran or American Legion). These services are free

    Physical Disability Agency (PDA)
    Component of HRC

    Reviews and approves/disapproves findings and recommendations of the PEB

    The PDA may:
    Return case to PEB for reconsideration, clarification, further investigation, formal hearing or other action
    Issue modified finding which could change Soldier’s fit or unfit decision
    If PDA makes any changes to the findings or dispositions, the Soldier has appeal rights (counsel + 10 days to sign)

    If PDA modifies PEB findings and you nonconcur, your case will be forwarded to USAPDAB for final review and decision.

    Final Disposition Physical Disability Agency
    PDB receives case from PDA and takes final administrative actions

    Transmits message to your Transition Center for disability separation/retirement orders
    Assigns final separation/retirement date: “Not Later Than 90 days
    Transition Center will publish appropriate orders

    Issues a fit memorandum to the MTF
    The fit memorandum completes the disability evaluation processing

    What about confidentiality?
    Your medical board is personal and private

    Limited information can be provided to your unit:



    Family members do not have automatic access to your medical records/board status without your written permission

    How can I make this as painless as possible?
    Be Available
    DO NOT miss any of your appointments – Be on time, with your ID card, in the appropriate Uniform, and have medical records in hand


    Always provide accurate phone

    If you change units or assignments, let your PEBLO know

    Contact your PEBLO before leaving town
    Be Informed
    Ask questions. Ask how long each step should take and follow-up. This is YOUR career and YOUR board. Take the time to review all documents for accuracy. Provide accurate and timely information


    You will also be able to track the progress on your MEB via the My MEB Portal on AKO. If you have any questions about the data you see in the My MEB Portal, please contact your PEBLO


  • emanuel August 1, 2012, 7:35 am

    I been referred to the meb on my T3 profile for asthma and lower back problems, I was wondering how long I have to wait to receive a call from the PEBLO or somebody to start the process , is being two weeks already and nobody called me. I ask the doctor that referred me to the meb and he says that my T3 profile with the meb referral is on place. My Commander is giving me a hard time with this and he is trying to say that I do not have any medical conditions because I pass my PT test that I almost failed.

  • raggytag September 4, 2012, 3:09 pm

    Sorry for the length of this question…My husband signed a 6 year contract for the Army back in 09. He is very smart, scored VERY well on all of his testing but to make a long story short ended up in 13B Field Artillery. We moved into post housing and after a short period of time my husband started falling out of runs, which was VERY odd for him because he is and has ALWAYS been a good runner. He was diagnosed with pretty severe Asthma! He has NEVER ever had this a day in his life until then. They placed his “P” in PULHES to a 3, he was given a MMRB and approved for job reclass. During all of this after being in base housing with a huge mold issues for 1 year we moved out, off post. His health has gotten SO MUCH BETTER. He takes his asthma meds but hardly EVER has to use his inhaler. He is now in the best physical shape he has ever been in and runs 2-3 times a day.
    My question finally is this…he has his eye on 2 certain jobs that he really wants to reclass to. They each are a much better fit for him and his abilities. The jobs are “P” 1 or 2. If he follows up with his doctor and has improved enough to have his “P” changed can they take back the approved MMRB and make him stay where he is? Please understand that we are not trying to be shady or do anything wrong. He just was looking forward to a change and we want to do everything right because he is in the Army for a carreer, not just a job. Our thought process is that either one of these jobs would help him in the civilian world with all of the cut backs and all too, A LOT better than 13B can! We thought about trying to do a job change when his re-enlistment comes up but we are unsure how all of this will work at this point. Unfortunately his “retention” person is never around and does not provide him with very much information so I was hoping maybe I could get some helpful honest info here. Thank you for your time and if you have ANY questions please let me know!

  • Cohrs September 23, 2012, 9:23 pm

    Hello my names andrew I am a social in the army. I am looking for some info on a med board process. I have 6.5 years in at the moment I have to re up for a year. Which will put me at 7.5 years. Now this will be a few questions and I am sorry. I am rated at 70% at the va and they have not finished my claim. I have seizures,back problems can’t remember what they said about the back but its rated at 30%. I had a few tbi s while deployed. Its all been compressed and been truing to get things figured out. Its been a battle I have been home for over a year and due to va appointments and seizures can’t get a job. I have a permanent profile that does not allow me to do anything. Its NO’ s straight down the page. I have more issues but these are the big ones. So questions are as fallows.
    If rated above 30% at board what does this entitle me to?
    Will it be a severance package?
    What about retirement?
    What do I need to do to prepare for this?
    Im sorry about this I haven’t been lead very well in this direction. Im truing to be prepared for the future and haves good understanding of what lies ahead. The seizures are from my t b I service connected and I still suffer from them till this day about once a week. Any info would be a blessing thankyou so much.

  • Spring November 5, 2012, 1:31 pm


    My husband was recomended for MEB last month, just last week he received a phone call from the MEB that he was choosen for a new process that is a Quick board he has his briefing tomorrow which is one week after the phone call. This type of MEB is new and it is for soldiers whom have less than 7 things wrong with them. My husband did not want the MEB but this was not considered, and the only thing on his meb is chronic foot pain. my husband has been diagnosed with different things and since we started this process we have received a copy of all the army’s documents, half mind you the doctors diagnosed him but yet he was never treated for. We have four children and now the army is cutting cornners to save money. I am upset we are looking at being completed in 6 months because of the MEB quick board this means they will not take everything into consideration, I am really worried and feel like we are being screwed.

  • Jenna November 6, 2012, 10:40 am

    My husband has been in for 13 years and has severe PTSD along with a large mass of physical problems. He recently had to admit himself for a week to try to get back on track, and they gave him a temp non-deployable profile and he was informed that they wanted to deploy him in January. After many long talks and quite a few fights he has started the process to med board. His behavioral health doctor is working with him and has wrote him 5 notes to help him along. We were told by others to expect it to be about 6 months or so but I am wondering if there is any more information available?

  • Kingsley February 27, 2013, 6:49 pm

    My husband just went through the new IDES/MEB/PEB/Med Board process. I wrote about it here: http://lifeasgriki.blogspot.com/2013/02/our-army-idesmebpebmed-board-experience.html

    Hope it helps!

    • Cassie December 27, 2013, 1:05 pm

      Kingsley, your link isn’t coming up it just takes me to your archives. Can you email me your post? I would love to see how it works. We are in the process now and I have so many questions.

  • Ozge May 20, 2013, 2:09 pm

    My husband completed all the required paperwork for the MEB around October-November of 2012, its been almost 7 months and we still have not heard back anything about his disability rating from the VA. I know his case is getting processed in Washington state, is there a number we can call to ask questions about his status?
    Thank you very much in advance.

  • Claudine July 8, 2013, 4:57 pm

    My husband as in a car wreck and because of his injuries was sent to the peb, then med board. While he was going through the lovely med board process they QRB’d him. He is AGR and at the time hadn’t hit 18 yrs active yet. So he couldn’t claim sanctuary. Anyway, while waiting for the final word on the med board, he was not retained by QRB. Fast forward a couple of months, after calculating his time in service, it came to 19 years, 4 months and 4 days active duty. 8 months from being able to retire with 20 years active duty. Which means dual compensation and a heck of a difference in quality of life for our family. Well, thanks to the QRB he has no recourse. You can appeal a PEB, even the Med Board, but you can’t appeal the QRB! I feel so screwed by the system! He’s put in over 28 years total! He’s been in since he gradutate highschool and is going to be 47 soon. That is a lot of years to give to your country to not be able to get 8 more months!! All this because some teenager couldn’t wait their turn and had to pull out into fast moving traffic and cause a wreck and my husband to be injured and end his career. He is still seeking medical care due to the car wreck! So disappointed in this system.

  • Candace DeBerry August 27, 2013, 11:34 am

    My husband has been in the army for 4 1/2 years. His first year of being in, he hurt his back during pt when his Sgt.. Had them carry a huge log and run with it. My husband was in the back of the line holding on to the back of the log when they suddenly halted. This caused his back to get jerked and he has been getting shots on and off on his back since this happened. The following year he was deployed to Afghanistan for a year and ended up with a hernia. They performed the hernia surgery over there inside of a tent and it later got infected, so he was bed ridden until it completely healed.
    When he returned home, they sent him to a specialist for an ultra sound to see if the hernia had healed and they found cysts on his kidneys , including a blood filled cyst which they originally told us was cancer. We were told that the cyst were probably caused from 2 of his medications that shouldn’t have been taken at the same time, but were prescribed to him by his PCM). The blood filled cyst was caused by some type of trauma (they’re not sure).
    He also was diagnosed with sleep apnea and has to used a CPAP machine every night for the past 3 years.
    He was deployed again to Afghanistan last year and while over there, he tore his rotator cuff (whatever it’s called) and had to have surgery on it as soon as he returned home. It isn’t healing well and they are suggesting another surgery. He is most likely going to Med Board. I’m worried that the Med Board will financially devastate our family, but he’s practically on a dead mans profile right now. Will our family lose our benefits? I’m so stressed I can’t even think straight. Oh yeah, he’s also been diagnosed with PTSD and has been seeing a counselor for over a year now. I’m so confused about the Med Board process and googled it, but it just gets me in a frenzy. He says he will get over 50% rating for his problems. How can we find out?

    • Stacey August 29, 2013, 8:02 pm

      Good grief, he’s had some bad luck medically! If he gets at least 30%, then he will keep his benefits the same as if he was retired after serving 20 years. If it’s less than 30%, then they medically separate him and he receives a one time severance. They can also decide to give him a temporary rating until they decide his condition is stable enough to be rated. If that happens, he’ll maintain benefits until a permanent decision is made.

      It can always vary but from what I’m hearing, there is a HUGE backlog and it’s taking a really long time to get a rating right now.

      • Jeremy July 21, 2014, 4:43 pm

        I know I’m replying to this way late, but I want to let everyone know that you need 30% or more to be automatically medically retired, as has been stated, and a diagnosis of sleep apnea (with CPAP, that is important) is an automatic 50% on its own.

  • gina January 29, 2014, 8:18 pm

    My son is 20 and was hurt in airborne training when he was not secured properly during a 15 foot jump and fell head first to the ground. He was unconscious on impact and found to have traumatic spondylosis from the fall. He completed therapy, chiropractic manipulation, and recently painful epidural injections until they determine there was nerve damage. They told him they would not do surgery due to nerve involvement and proceeded the med board process. We are not at all familiar with this process and I am afraid my son maybe a bit naïve with this process. He will need a laminectomy and spinal fusion when he comes home as permanent nerve damage is a possibility . Is there anything he should be doing or anything he needs to know to ensure he is treated properly and not taken for a ride especially since the injury was a result of negligence? Everything I have research is very confusing.

  • Blake July 7, 2014, 3:54 am

    So I’m not sure if you still check this but if you do, I have a question. I have been in for little over 2 years now and one day while I was working out with my Lt. we was on leg press we’ll while I was pushing the weight I felt a pop in my lower back/ hit and my legs went numb for about 5 mins making it hard to walk. Well come 8 months later they say my profile can no longer work and that it will need to be permenint but if it does I don’t meet my mos lifting requirement not only that it hurts when I wear the body armor. The only hing really holding me back is that I’m scared if I do medboard they will try to (sorry for the language) screw me over; but I’m also scared that if I don’t medboard this problem may come back in the future sense I get dull pain in that region now. Is their any advise you could give me?

    • Stacey Abler July 7, 2014, 5:02 pm

      Pebforum.com can give you the best advice. My husband and I struggled with the what if scenarios as well. Hope all works out for the best.

  • SPC Ross October 20, 2014, 5:44 pm

    My question is to anyone while going through the process of a meb are you suppose to show up to work or just accountability formation

    • Stacey Abler November 7, 2014, 8:12 pm

      My husband worked every day until his retirement date.

  • SGT Withoutjobfornow November 25, 2014, 8:11 am

    I was assigned to a unit in Korea that has nothing to do with my MOS. Due to the fact that I hold a permanent profile that unfits me with the unit activities the doctor recommended me for MEB. Today I just met my MTF and now I am start to think about go to WTU. With a P3 profile now I have no idea where I will be sent and no clue what I should do. They said that it would take 60 days to get me out of Korea. I just get here in September after move my family out of Fort Drum. I am very unhappy and I will need all type of motivation to move forward.

  • Bren_29 February 19, 2016, 2:12 am

    My husband has been in the service since 2008 (Army). He recently changed his MOS from 91B (Mechanic) to 94H (TMDE) last year . He’s had reoccurring back pain & asthma but didn’t really go to his PCM until a few years back. We are now stationed in S.Korea. He’s been on temporary profile (Peremant 3) 3x’s since December and he’s gotten examined for his back & chest. He was diagnosis was L2-L3: Disc bulge without central canal or foraminal stenosis, L4-L5: Disc bulge and mild bilateral facet hypertrophy cause mild central canal stenosis and Mild degenerative changes at L2-L3 and L4-L5. Pretty much he has arthritis in his lower lumbar (chronic pain) from what I gathered from google. I mean he gets the whole tingly, numbing sensation down the leg, pinching and stiffness in his lower back. Has the narrowing in his spine and no fluid in two of his disc. My husband was leaning towards Med board but without actually asking for it until the doctor brought it up and he recommended him for it. Then when my husband went to take his asthma test the specialist told him he had mild asthma but his PCM told him after speaking with the specialist at Brian Allgood said he had no asthma. He’s had breathing problems since coming back from Iraq probably due to the fact he was near burn pits while in Iraq & Afghanistan. He was diagnosed with an unknown allergen and is prescribed Zyrtec. Now, after all that was said and done, his PCM was waiting for the Physical Medicine doctor to make the note stating he was cleared for Med Board on his medical record. After calling and speaking with Physician he told my husband he wasn’t going to recommend him for it after all. The physician believes he won’t get anything out of the PEB if he pushes the Med Board thru. He also told him 1.) that he wants to steroid shots on his lower back when prior to telling him he wasn’t going to do them 2.) told him he wasn’t asking the right questions and complaining about the right things when it came to his lower back. I’m mean honestly, what kind of doctor tells you that? I’m guessing he wants my husband to be a baby about it just keep complaining about it. Although he did recommend my husband to ask his Commander to do a Medical Ch. 5-17. I got the gist of it from what I read online. Besides speaking with his Commander what does my husband need to do as far as paperwork on his end? He told me his Commander & BN Co are asking about his paperwork to make sure he gets him out of here as smoothly as possible & they speak with his therapist about how he’s doing mentally. So we know they’re trackin’. I’m just trying to understand why he would tell him yes but not jot it down & then turn around and tell him no?.. He wasn’t the only soldier to be told yes to then turn around and be told no either. I don’t know if there’s an upside to being Chapter-ed out medically? Can anyone shed some light on any of this? Anything that he can do to make it go smoothly?

  • David Marcucci April 17, 2016, 1:40 pm

    hi there, my name is David Marcucci.
    I recently just had a flat foot reconstructive surgery one month ago and they said I would most likely end up on a level p2 or p3 profile. Right now I have three 3’s on my pulhes in the first three categories of course and I was just wondering like what my future entitles in the military, is it just going to end up being an mos change because I cant perform my task as an 11 bravo or am I looking a possible meb due to my one year recovery time plus the fact that I have been misdiagnosed 3 times before this and have been on profile for more than 250 days before I even had my surgery which happened on march 14 of 2015. my first profile went into effect early may of 2014.

  • Joseph May 14, 2016, 6:06 pm


    I am still in the IDES process. Can I still submit my permanent profile that was signed by my Surgeon, dated 27 April 2016?



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